Any update on when the trial of Alex will begin? Any further information since this last report?
K Hargus
9 years ago
This was so orchestrated by the police to blame the killing on Alex! Just after the shooting, with John dying in the hallway and being rushed to the ambulance, his roomate who just came down to see what was going on, asked the policeman how John was attacked and the policeman said he was stabbed in the heart by the perpetrator ( Alex) when he clearly knew they had shot him and most likely killed him. So, from the very beginning they were lying and trying to cover up the wrongful shooting! The LAPD NEEDS TO CLEAN THEIR HOUSE and… Read more »
K Hargus
9 years ago
Thank you for reporting on yet another example of police not thinking and firing their weapons impulsively. Neither of these young men were armed and clearly were escaping the apartment. The fact that none of these officers were suspended from duty and not prosecuted is so wrong! Wow what would have happened if either of these young men had been black of some other minority? Well looking at all the news elsewhere of such outrage and marches over inappropriate police killings of men of color…so sad! Hopefully their a___es will get sued off in civil court!
Username
9 years ago
No. The Lasd knew it was a “knife” hostage situation. So they decided to use not tasers, but actual bullets to shoot anyone and everyone who ran out of the apartment? Only 2 people ran out and both were shot, Mulligan was shot in the thigh and Winkler shot in the heart. Running out of a hostage situation is left exclusively for the hostages. It’s not rocket science to realize people running out are victims. Any other excuse at all for same shirt color, mistaken identity, or any other bogus PR statement from Lasd for why they indiscriminately fired on… Read more »
Professor Shivers
9 years ago
Jessica Mitford is correct. The sheriffs are corrupt. No doubt!
jimmypalmieri
9 years ago
There will never be a happy ending to this story for anyone involved. It is truly the worst of all circmstances, with no possible happy ending. It is one of the saddest stories I can remember since moving here in 94.
Jessica Mitford
9 years ago
There is no community leadership in West Hollywood. Just the corrupt city officials (such as John Duran and Deputygate) that hire the third rate and corrupt LA County Sheriff’s to police the city. The City Council and the overpaid City Manger care about one thing – developers like Irwin and Siegel (8150 Sunset and the ICM Building). The LA County Fire Department is great – but when you come to the deputies (not Duran’s deputy) they are from hunger. WEHO is the gay Ferguson and North Charleston. Only African-Americans aren’t shot – innocent gay men like the victim of our… Read more »
Woody McBreairty
9 years ago
It would have been less disconcerting if a member of our community leadership, while expressing hard line “support” for those who took the life of this innocent young man, had the thoughtfulness & presence of mind to have included in their comments some semblance of sympathy for the family of those who suffered the loss of their loved one. Leaders can do that.
JJ
9 years ago
All in a matter of seconds. An unfortunate situation with an unfortunate outcome. I’m sure the Sheriffs acted in what they thought -in those split seconds – was the right response. Very unfortunate. Thoughts go out to the families and the victims.
Larry Block
9 years ago
Excellent reporting and follow up.
Randy
9 years ago
Yes, this definitely looks like excessive force. Shot four times? The only “defense” I can see for that is if 1) they did think Winkler was McDonald and 2) they thought Winkler (confused as McDonald) was chasing Mulligan and 3) they all fired at once, or nearly at once. In other words, they thought Mulligan was still being attacked, and because he and Winkler were right on top of each other, that Winkler needed to be taken down (i.e., they weren’t fearing for their own lives). Its hard to judge. But I would think that if someone was shot in… Read more »
Todd Bianco
9 years ago
After all this time, I’d think that the toxicology report would be public information, but perhaps not. Don’t we, as the public, have a right to know what drugs, if any might have led to this tragic, bizarre behavior? There are two other things that stand out to me. First is the discrepancy between the two women who gave statements that they showed the deputies pictures of the attacker (McDonald) and one of the victims (Mulligan) inside the apartment and the deputies who told the investigators that they “did not recall” seeing the photos. Second is the assertion that the… Read more »
Any update on when the trial of Alex will begin? Any further information since this last report?
This was so orchestrated by the police to blame the killing on Alex! Just after the shooting, with John dying in the hallway and being rushed to the ambulance, his roomate who just came down to see what was going on, asked the policeman how John was attacked and the policeman said he was stabbed in the heart by the perpetrator ( Alex) when he clearly knew they had shot him and most likely killed him. So, from the very beginning they were lying and trying to cover up the wrongful shooting! The LAPD NEEDS TO CLEAN THEIR HOUSE and… Read more »
Thank you for reporting on yet another example of police not thinking and firing their weapons impulsively. Neither of these young men were armed and clearly were escaping the apartment. The fact that none of these officers were suspended from duty and not prosecuted is so wrong! Wow what would have happened if either of these young men had been black of some other minority? Well looking at all the news elsewhere of such outrage and marches over inappropriate police killings of men of color…so sad! Hopefully their a___es will get sued off in civil court!
No. The Lasd knew it was a “knife” hostage situation. So they decided to use not tasers, but actual bullets to shoot anyone and everyone who ran out of the apartment? Only 2 people ran out and both were shot, Mulligan was shot in the thigh and Winkler shot in the heart. Running out of a hostage situation is left exclusively for the hostages. It’s not rocket science to realize people running out are victims. Any other excuse at all for same shirt color, mistaken identity, or any other bogus PR statement from Lasd for why they indiscriminately fired on… Read more »
Jessica Mitford is correct. The sheriffs are corrupt. No doubt!
There will never be a happy ending to this story for anyone involved. It is truly the worst of all circmstances, with no possible happy ending. It is one of the saddest stories I can remember since moving here in 94.
There is no community leadership in West Hollywood. Just the corrupt city officials (such as John Duran and Deputygate) that hire the third rate and corrupt LA County Sheriff’s to police the city. The City Council and the overpaid City Manger care about one thing – developers like Irwin and Siegel (8150 Sunset and the ICM Building). The LA County Fire Department is great – but when you come to the deputies (not Duran’s deputy) they are from hunger. WEHO is the gay Ferguson and North Charleston. Only African-Americans aren’t shot – innocent gay men like the victim of our… Read more »
It would have been less disconcerting if a member of our community leadership, while expressing hard line “support” for those who took the life of this innocent young man, had the thoughtfulness & presence of mind to have included in their comments some semblance of sympathy for the family of those who suffered the loss of their loved one. Leaders can do that.
All in a matter of seconds. An unfortunate situation with an unfortunate outcome. I’m sure the Sheriffs acted in what they thought -in those split seconds – was the right response. Very unfortunate. Thoughts go out to the families and the victims.
Excellent reporting and follow up.
Yes, this definitely looks like excessive force. Shot four times? The only “defense” I can see for that is if 1) they did think Winkler was McDonald and 2) they thought Winkler (confused as McDonald) was chasing Mulligan and 3) they all fired at once, or nearly at once. In other words, they thought Mulligan was still being attacked, and because he and Winkler were right on top of each other, that Winkler needed to be taken down (i.e., they weren’t fearing for their own lives). Its hard to judge. But I would think that if someone was shot in… Read more »
After all this time, I’d think that the toxicology report would be public information, but perhaps not. Don’t we, as the public, have a right to know what drugs, if any might have led to this tragic, bizarre behavior? There are two other things that stand out to me. First is the discrepancy between the two women who gave statements that they showed the deputies pictures of the attacker (McDonald) and one of the victims (Mulligan) inside the apartment and the deputies who told the investigators that they “did not recall” seeing the photos. Second is the assertion that the… Read more »