Split WeHo Council keeps scooters for now, adds speed limit

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In a 3-2 vote, West Hollywood City Council decided to keep dockless mobility in the city alive for now.

Two years after it began, the pilot program that puts electric scooters on the streets has polarized the community and the council. A vocal bloc of residents outraged over the dangers and nuisance they present to pedestrians has led the charge to get them banned.

All five councilmembers admitted during their Monday night meeting that dockless mobility has major problems— bad contracts with vendors Bird and Lime, dangerous behavior by riders, an inability by those companies to curtail riding and leaving devices on the sidewalk — but while Councilmembers John Heilman and Lauren Meister thought the pilot program had failed in its objective, Mayor Sepi Shyne sided with Mayor Pro Tem John Erickson and Councilmember Chelsea Byers, both stalwart proponents of the program.

Shyne’s motion directs City Staff to immediately re-negotiate the contracts with the scooter providers and calls for a speedcap of 10 miles per hour for all scooters and e-bikes within city limits to be instituted as soon as possible. City Council will decide in late October what to do with the program after that.

I’m sure there are folks who are thinking it would be totally safer for a person to not be on a scooter, period, but I want to remind us of the larger priority that this program came around, which was an opportunity to get people safely on to alternatives of transportation, that contributes to our climate goals in big ways,” Byers said.

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“This two-year pilot has shown us that we cannot rely on these companies to be responsible,” said Meister, who voted against the motion and wanted the program to end. “They don’t care if their riders are under 18. They don’t care if they ride on a unit without a helmet. They don’t care if someone is over the weight limit. They don’t care if a bystander gets hit or hurt. They don’t care if their riders don’t have insurance. They don’t care if their units are left blocking the public right of way, or on a parkway, or in the middle of the street. I believe the pilot has run its course, and it’s time to conclude it.”

“We have companies who are trying to exploit the demand in the community for these devices and they have no interest in being partners with us,” said Heilman, also a “no” vote. “They have interest in simply doing things the way they want to do them. And as Councilmember Meister indicated that has been the modus operandi from the get-go. So I am not supportive of continuing this program. I would love for us to have a way to provide micro mobility devices that are safe in the community. But I don’t think we can do that with the current partners nor do. I don’t think we can do it with scooters at this time.”

“I’m not going to spend $600 on a scooter,” Erickson said. “It’s just stupid. Like, I want to rent a scooter to be able to go somewhere and have it be an affordable option that I can include in my monthly budget, especially for commuting to work by train. It may not work for everyone, but we’re trying to find a compromise and address the concerns of different groups. Classifying our efforts as lacking compassion or disregarding people with disabilities or seniors is an oversimplified argument. We’re here every day, trying to navigate through this and make decisions based on the numbers and data we see.”

He noted how there had been “37,900 to 43,561 trips” on Scooters within two blocks of his home.

Shyne’s motion ensures the long-awaited telephone portion of a regional survey on desire for scooters will be completed.

 

 

 

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Chris
Chris
9 months ago

Great news! Thanks council!!

JRBirdsong
JRBirdsong
9 months ago

These “speed limits” are a JOKE unless the manufacturers can control the speeds! WHO is going to enforce? LASD! Like they are going to make the effort!

JRBirdsong
JRBirdsong
9 months ago

Mayor Sepi Shyne sided with Mayor Pro Tem John Erickson and Councilmember Chelsea Byers, both stalwart proponents of the program…. I will be spending copious amounts of time and money to get rid of each of you!

Chris
Chris
9 months ago
Reply to  JRBirdsong

Your money can’t buy you everything. Get over yourself. Sepi Shyne stays and the scooters stay.

pat russell
pat russell
10 months ago

I love the way so many on scooters just fly through 4-way stops…..

KarlZ
KarlZ
10 months ago

Speed limit is a joke. Cars speed down back streets. This isn’t enforced. How are they going to enforce scooters when they can’t even enforce leaf blowers. I think they added that for good looks.
The issue is that scooters dot stop for signals, they ride on curbs, they are left across walkways and they are horrifically dangerous because of the limitations of a scooter, no helmets and the actual riders skill. Insurance should not cover riders at all.
At the end of the day it’s money in the cities pockets.

Londa
Londa
10 months ago

It’s not stupid to spend 600 dollars on a scooter when car insurance is 600 a MONTH! Erickson just said this to detract from the solution: if people need a scooter to get back and forth from work, they can pay 50 dollars a month for the first year until they own their scooter. He is clearly getting kickbacks from the company. Investigation needed.

Colin
Colin
10 months ago

40,000 trips! That’s almost 40,000 less car trips, meaning far less time sitting in traffic. While as a driver it’s not ideal to have e-scooters on the main boulevards (to be fair they’re not always allowed on the sidewalks so there’s no infrastructure for them), there’s clearly a desire for alternatives to cars.

I’ve loved using the Lime bikes, I just wish cars were less deadly / it was safer to use them. The problem isn’t the scooters – if anything, it’s the cars.

Paul
Paul
10 months ago

Meister said the most important points in the beginning of her statement “They don’t care if their riders are under 18. They don’t care if they ride on a unit without a helmet.

Last year my friend’s 16 year old daughter was hit by a car riding without a helmet and now she is a vegetable. It’s absolutely tragic.

It’s usually a group of teenagers riding too fast unsafely and without helmets. Good luck trying to police that. Once you have a solution for the dangers then you can get into all the contracts and nuisances.

Uncontrollable
Uncontrollable
10 months ago

Class 1 & 2 e-bikes 20 mph
Class 3. 28 mph
Some 70 mph not allowed on roads.

e-scooters 37-60 mph

We have started something that will never be impossible to regulate. 🙄😨😱

Uncontrollable
Uncontrollable
10 months ago
Reply to  Uncontrollable

West Hollywood has started something that will never be possible to regulate.🙄😨😱

BIRD NERD
BIRD NERD
10 months ago

Hilarious. Just buy one… 1,000…..24mph. Passing all the traffic on Sunset and Santa Monica… The best!

Peter Buckley
Peter Buckley
10 months ago

Hey ignorant council members who voted for this under the “green” label, have you read how much destruction to endangered species is being caused by solar panel farms in the Mojave Desert? Get on a pedal bike and get fit.

KarlZ
KarlZ
10 months ago
Reply to  Peter Buckley

People don’t understand or care about the desert.

Outraged
Outraged
10 months ago

RECALL Erickson and Byers, those corrupt, kickback-taking City Council crooks, and especially that selfish, vindictive, incompetent, obnoxious, narcissistic egomaniac, opportunist climber: RECALL SEPTIC SHYNE!!

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