WeHo hasn’t shared Fountain bike lane plans with Fire Department

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The Los Angeles Fire Department revealed they had not reviewed or even been advised by the City of West Hollywood about plans to cut down Fountain Avenue down to two lanes of traffic to make way for protected bike lanes, potentially impacting access and response times for firetrucks and ambulances.

During Monday night’s Public Safety Commission meeting, former City Councilmember Steve Martin brought up the question during public comment.

“It seems like next week the city’s going to be considering funding for the Fountain bike lanes, which will result in Fountain being reduced to one lane in either direction,” Martin said. “It’s really frustrating that there has not been, and does not appear to have been, any input by this commission. There does not appear to have been any input by the Sheriff’s Department as to how that would impact response times. There’s been no outreach to the Fire Department as to how reducing traffic to one lane on Fountain is going to impact the ability for first responders. … When Fountain becomes one lane and there aren’t always adequate left-turn lanes, there’s going to be chaos and gridlock on Fountain. And that chaos and gridlock is going to extend down to Santa Monica Boulevard. I’m not even aware that there’s been a traffic study. It’s very, very frustrating to watch how staff and Council have moved forward on this project in such an irresponsible manner, and I do mean irresponsible, because this is not the way we have ever done a major project in West Hollywood that would impact so many people. ” 

Commissioner Brandon Blau posed Martin’s question to Assistant Fire Chief Division 7 Drew Smith.

“Do you know if the fire department has been engaged with respect to the design yet, so any of that may compromise or impact emergency vehicles and how that is looked at with input from the fire department?” Blau asked.

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“There are some great concepts out there, but we don’t want it to jeopardize our public safety mission either,” Smith said. “So, there’s a lot of creative designs out there, and yes, we would like to have and will have input on that to come up with the best solution we can.”

Commissioner George Nickle pressed further.

“There are also plans to do protected bike lanes on Gardner,” Nickle said. “So, have you been engaged by the city at this point as far as the plans? And what is your feeling about this? I ask because I know that when HLA came before voters in Los Angeles, the union—LA Local 112—the firemen’s union spoke out against it. They said it could impede emergency response times. How are we doing here as far as these plans and your input?”

“So, I have not seen the plans, so I can’t give any weigh-in on it and how it is,” Smith answered. “I would have to go and look at what my perspective of it is and how those impacts might be. I can say with our fire agencies—us being Los Angeles County and Los Angeles City—our fire trucks are the same length and size, so I could wholeheartedly say if there are some questions to be asked or some challenges that possibly need to be identified on their side, I feel strongly that we would also like to look at those same comments. But I haven’t looked at them, though, George—I haven’t—so I can’t take judgment on it, but I would love to, so we can see and make sure that we’re meeting the need. Because ultimately, we understand that there needs to be that traffic plan. We need pedestrian use—mixed-use—whether it’s bikes, street walkers, or stroller pushers, or what have you, to have those accommodations. But we really need to look at that public safety component with our fire engines and emergency apparatus.”

“I would certainly hope so because it is a matter of public safety,” Nickle said. “Hopefully, you’re being engaged and have absolute input before anything moves forward because we’ve been told that this was far in the future whenever it was brought up, and now it seems to be upon us. Especially for Gardner—there’s even a nursing home there. And I see this is my neighborhood, so I know it extremely well, and I see, unfortunately, there is a need to respond to nursing homes. First responders and fire trucks are there all the time. And when you’re there, even as the street currently is without protected bike lanes, you’re pretty much blocking everything, correct? So, I can imagine that it would make responses to that situation more difficult, correct?”

“Correct,” Smith said. “And we know that when—and I field questions quite a bit on this—when our apparatus are parked on an emergency, there are questions like, ‘How come they’re blocking driveways?’ and so on. We know that parking is a challenge and that people need to navigate their lives, so when we bring that equipment, it does have an impact on possibly the 911 customer service delivery and on people who are totally uninvolved with the emergency that’s going on, who of course are on a time crunch to get somewhere and now find themselves blocked. So, we know that navigation and parking are very challenging in West Hollywood.”

The contentious bike lanes have long been pitched to residents as a pilot project, but City Council on Monday is gearing up to accept an infrastructure grant that forecasts construction beginning in late 2025 or early 2026. 

“I don’t want to sound like a lawyer, but it sounds like the fire department has not had formal input into this process,” Martin said. “I’m not sure the commission has had formal input into this process, and I think that’s a really important missing component. .. This project is upon us. It’s not something far off in the future like we’ve been told—this is here and this is now. We’re not going to have a lot of time to start changing things if there’s a problem.  They need to be able to give formal input at a public hearing so that people can ask questions and have their concerns addressed.”
 

 

 

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Tom
Tom
2 months ago

Hey, fire trucks and ambulances are just more motorists. And who cares about inconveniencing motorists, right? They should get scooter operated fire trucks and bicycle ambulances if they want any consideration from this Council..

Bob
Bob
2 months ago

Can WeHo Online do a story on candidates’ positions on this project, please?

Steve Martin
Steve Martin
2 months ago
Reply to  Bob

During the August 16th Streets for All candidates forum only two candidates endorsed the Fountain bike lane project: Mayor John Erickson and Danny Hang. All of the other candidates expressed opposition or grave reservations about this plan. Erickson and Hang are boasting of about their endorsement by Streets for All.

Silver Power
Silver Power
2 months ago

This is bad for commuters, it’s putting seniors and others at risk, it’s lowering the quality of life for thousands of people in the city, it’s endangering health and safety, and it is a stupid idea. Get rid of it.

Outraged
Outraged
2 months ago

The People must RISE UP AND STOP THIS ATROCITY!!! People’s LIVES are at stake because of the grossly incompetent City Council and their naive, STUPID, greedy, tone deaf, PATHETIC incompetence. STOP
THIS INSANE PROJECT NOW, no matter what it takes!!

Multimodal Maven
Multimodal Maven
2 months ago

Has anyone noticed that Fountain is one lane each way up to the WeHo border? Do you recall that it also was that way up to La Cienega for some time even after WeHo was incorporated?

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Gimmeabreak
Gimmeabreak
2 months ago

Just imagine if Steve Martin had been on the City Council these past few years how much better WeHo would be!

TomSmart
TomSmart
3 months ago

I’ll vote for the 2 candidates who put the kabosh on this insanely ridiculous idea.

Shawn
Shawn
2 months ago
Reply to  TomSmart

I couldn’t agree more. Moving forward with this project only proves that City Council is so OUT OF TOUCH with what residents in the area need. PARKING and a good flow of traffic. Not this nonsense that certainly awaits everyone living here, not to mention businesses. Stop the insanity.

JF1
JF1
2 months ago
Reply to  TomSmart

ME TOO.

Shawn
Shawn
2 months ago
Reply to  TomSmart

Couldn’t agree more. Btw my last comment was deleted. Censorship at it’s finest. See everyone on Sunday.

CHRISTMAS IN SEPTEMBER!
CHRISTMAS IN SEPTEMBER!
3 months ago

Ah, it’s all exempt from environmental review the City will tell you. But, then the little people of Wehoville will be standing in the street on New Years Day singing: “David Wilson, Danny Rivas, Bobby Cheung you are liars, read the stautes they will tell you when exemptions don’t ah-ply! Class Four sub-sect-ion h says: creation of bike lanes not exempt when significantly affecting a level of fa la la la la of Service. De-grading E m e r g e n c y Services is always a sub-stantial and unmitigatable impact. Fa la la la la f*ck the bike… Read more »

Jim Nasium
Jim Nasium
3 months ago

Remarkable. Asking for funding without first doing their due diligence. And that commissioner’s defensive speech at the end of the meeting was a real lowlight.

SeeMe
SeeMe
3 months ago

“Woke” does not mean the rules don’t still apply. These clowns on council are selfish, entitled virtue signalers who – based on this particular situation – clearly DO NOT PUT PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST. The irony, considering the whole point of the bike lanes is to make riding safe for the 7 cyclists who will be using Fountain. I can’t wait to vote against Erickson come election time.

Jay P
Jay P
2 months ago
Reply to  SeeMe

How do we stop this and put some real pressure on these idiots?? Publish their home addresses? Something needs to be done, and strongly. Send a very strong message about the consequences of going any further with this project.

Mikie Friedman
Mikie Friedman
2 months ago
Reply to  Jay P

You might want to attend the Plummer Park meeting tomorrow night and speak out loud and strong!

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BikeLanesWillKillUsALL
BikeLanesWillKillUsALL
3 months ago

In other breaking news the fire dept has not been consulted on what color to paint the new office at city hall. I find it surprising since your average fire fighter has a masters in city planning and traffic engineering. Could this be another bad faith WEHOtimes article pushing an anti progress agenda? I dare say we should ask the fire dept

Jim Nasium
Jim Nasium
3 months ago

That’s a ridiculous comparison and comment. BTW, you’re not reading “weho times”

JF1
JF1
2 months ago

some “progress!” 🙄

dave
dave
3 months ago

I live on Fountain and not received any information or reach out to conduct a survey for input on shaping this plan. For that reason I am not surprised that the fire department hasn’t been contacted either. I don’t understand how these decisions are made without first reaching out to the people and organizations they affect the most.

West Hollywood needs a new city manager whom is capable of organizing community outreaches prior to presenting plans that have been vetted behind closed doors.