DEAR WEHO: Laws restricting sex clubs and bathhouses are antiquated

The AIDS epidemic of the 1980s and 1990s brought about a wave of fear and panic, leading to the implementation of several laws and regulations aimed at preventing the spread of the virus. One of these measures included the closure of bath houses and sex clubs, which were seen as hotspots for risky sexual behavior.

However, as we continue to make advancements in HIV prevention and treatment, it is time to reevaluate these laws and consider repealing them. The reality is that these establishments can play an important role in promoting safe sexual practices and providing vital resources for the LGBTQ+ community.

First and foremost, bath houses and sex clubs can serve as a valuable resource for HIV education and prevention. These establishments can provide free condoms and safe sex education materials, as well as offer on-site HIV testing. By doing so, they can help to decrease the transmission of HIV and other sexually transmitted infections.

Moreover, bath houses and sex clubs can also serve as a safe and inclusive space for the LGBTQ+ community. These establishments often cater to a predominantly queer clientele, providing a sense of community and acceptance for individuals who may not feel comfortable in other public spaces. They also offer a space for sexual expression and exploration, which can be especially important for those who may face discrimination or stigma in their daily lives.

By allowing these establishments to operate legally, cities can regulate and enforce safer practices. This includes requiring regular testing for sexually transmitted infections and mandating safe sex practices. These regulations can help to ensure that individuals are practicing safer sex and that any potential risks are minimized.

Repealing the ordinances that prevent new bath houses and sex clubs from operating can also have economic benefits for cities. These establishments can bring in revenue and create job opportunities, which can be especially important in today’s economic climate. Additionally, as the LGBTQ+ community is a significant consumer demographic, embracing these establishments can attract tourism and boost local businesses.

It is important to note that the fears and stigmas of the AIDS era are no longer reflective of the reality of HIV today. With advancements in treatment, individuals living with HIV can lead long and healthy lives, and the risk of transmission is significantly decreased with proper prevention methods. It is time for our laws and regulations to catch up with this progress.

The closure of bath houses and sex clubs was a reactionary measure during a time of fear and uncertainty. It is time for cities to reconsider these laws and recognize the positive impact these establishments can have on public health, LGBTQ+ communities, and local economies. By lifting some of the outdated heavy restrictions preventing these safe spaces form existing here in Los Angeles and West Hollywood, we can create a more inclusive and progressive society. 

We, the LGBTQ+ community intend to petition and present an official referendum to reform the laws and licensing for bathhouse and sex clubs to allow new businesses and safe spaces to return to our city again. 

With honor and sincere respect, 

James Thomas
WEHO Business Owner
THE PIG PEN LA
8248 Santa Monica Blvd, Studio B
West Hollywood, CA 90046

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Ramesses setepenre
4 months ago

I’m running for city clowncil, and I fully support this.

Wayne
Wayne
1 year ago

Wasn’t the 8709 Club in the City of Weho? It was an amazingly fun establishment at 8709 Beverly Blvd back in the 1980’s.

Mike
Mike
1 year ago
Reply to  Wayne

No, it wasn’t located in West Hollywood. It was within the city of L.A. BTW, I have fond memories of the 8709. A friend of mine went with me to the 8709 back in the mid-80’s. When we arrived, we saw that it had been closed but there was this guy handing out passes to another bath house. My friend then asked: “Is this a transfer?”.

Michael
Michael
1 year ago
Reply to  Wayne

Also, it was 8709 Third Street. Not Beverly blvd

West
West
1 year ago

Commercial sex establishments have been very useful in HIV harm reduction efforts. In college, I worked the front desk of a sex club “Folsom Prison” on weekends, and we regularly worked with groups like St. James Infirmary to provide on site HIV testing/counseling. In LA, I’ve done extensive outreach at commercial sex venues for research projects for sex workers etc. Generally the owners/workers at these establishments are happy to provide community outreach workers/researchers the opportunity to work with their customers on projects serving the public good. It’s worth mentioning that the LGBT community initially pushed back on efforts to close… Read more »

WeHo Mary!
WeHo Mary!
1 year ago
Reply to  West

I think the term “HIV harm reduction” is a stretch. Can you give us readers a concrete example or instance of when outreach actually made a successful impact in HIV prevention? Just because services, testing and counseling are offered, does not mean that this is accepted or effective.

West
West
1 year ago
Reply to  WeHo Mary!

Testing and counseling are the impact, although I understand what you’re getting at. These types of programs just meet people where they are at, but I don’t agree with a narrow sighted emphasis on prep/harm reduction/etc— changing behaviors to reduce risk is the ideal outcome.

WEHO COP
WEHO COP
1 year ago
Reply to  WeHo Mary!

Weho Mary, you narrow minded contrarian, are the last person to judge is something is “accepted or effective”. You consistently clutter these comment sections with your negative and self righteous commentary but we all accept it and you certainly seem to think it’s effective. When it comes to educating people about HIV prevention it’s always better to have it even if you dont need it, than need it and wish you had it.

say what now?
say what now?
1 year ago

James Thomas…..troll much?

J. Thomas
1 year ago
Reply to  say what now?

How am I “Trolling”? I’m replying to comments written about MY article…Im allowed to defend my writing. It’s not like I’m searching random chat rooms or (umm I don’t know…) online community news forums to purposely stir up fights and conflicts….like yourself! Who is the troll here?

Walter
Walter
1 year ago

Let the people decide what they want to do with their body

Larry
Larry
1 year ago

demand? drop by slammer! “education materials”, tests, free condoms, big deal, they are all by choice. same applies to PrEP and PEP. and if you are in the sex club mood, are you going to make any such choice, maybe yes but my guess is probably not. unless you are old enough to have experienced the devastation, in which case your old body probably won’t get you very far unless it’s very dark or you are prodigiously endowed. but slammer is a good example, it’s successful, it serves a purpose (not the purpose of employment or gay symbolism or progressive… Read more »

singleguywh
singleguywh
1 year ago

The closest thing we ever had to a bathhouse in WeHo city limits was The Zone – and the front half of that place was squarely in Los Angeles.

The author could make his point more-effectively with L.A.’s gay elected officials. Hell – if he can get Michael Weinstein on board, it’s a shoe-in.

Reef
Reef
1 year ago
Reply to  singleguywh

“Closest thing you ever had was the zone….” buddy, fact check yourself. You’re about factual as Trump- which is to say not all factual.
Key club, Rogues, Apollo health baths all within city limits. Source: queermaps.org

John McCormick
John McCormick
1 year ago

Dude, we won’t even allow a Burger King in our city.

Ron Hamill
Ron Hamill
1 year ago
Reply to  John McCormick

I want an Arby’s or at least Hamburger Haven to re-open. Both better than some filthy bathhouse.

J. THOMAS
1 year ago
Reply to  Ron Hamill

I’d be ok with an Arby’s…. we can put a glory hole in the rest room. The bonus is after some stranger gets you off in the bathroom you can walk out and get something to eat. Your right… far less filthy.

J. THOMAS
1 year ago
Reply to  John McCormick

I DO AGGREE THERE SHOULD BE A BURGER KING OR SOMEWHERE TO GET A BITE TO EAT AFTER 2AM

Jeff
Jeff
1 year ago

Not mentioning Marburg or MPox once in his argument to reopen sex clubs is really something.

J. THOMAS
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff

Should I have cited EVERY potential risk of having intimate contact witn another person? OK, fine. It should be noted that the following are also potential health threats when engaging in intimate contact with a stranger:
– Bacterial Vaginosis
– Chlamydia
– Genital Herpes
– Gonorrhea
– Human Papillomavirus
– MGN
– PID
– Syphilis
– Trichomnosis
– Hepatitis A,B, and C
– LGV
– Chancroid
– HIV
– MPOX
– Shingles
– Urethritis
– AND MORE…

Are we done splitting hairs yet?

JF1
JF1
1 year ago

A great ancillary business to go along with the pot shops. A race to the bottom.

J. THOMAS
1 year ago
Reply to  JF1

NOPE…Ive been told on many occasions that Weho is already full of bottoms.

If you don’t like the progress being made around you or the direction the city is headed then you have the freedom to move somewhere you feel more comfortable. I could suggest a nice place under a rock somewhere back in time perhaps.

Ben Kawaller
1 year ago

This may be the most pious call for a sex club ever written

J. THOMAS
1 year ago
Reply to  Ben Kawaller

And there are so many other pias gay man on there knees out there.. I just want to give them safe places to go and worship. 😉

BloodshotEyedGuy
BloodshotEyedGuy
1 year ago

This is funny because it sorta defines WeHo. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Who doesn’t love a good ol’ sex club? The old Vortex and The Zone should have their own Netflix docs.